Saturday, December 21, 2019

Chimpanzee Christmas Party! - Shhhh! It's a Secret!

Many of you who follow my Twitter have probably already seen my video of the Chimpanzees having a Christmas Party.  I posted a cell phone clip Wednesday, the day it happened.  Eventually I'll have more from my camera. 

Here's the link, Chimpers are cute and having fun, but warning, my commentary is a bit cranky and blunt about the scenario.

I headed to the Zoo between the bursts of rain, so I could hopefully get a walk in.  Started to rain as I parked.  I thought, will probably pass, and I can always hang out inside with the Chimps.  Got to the Dayroom and it was closed with Security at door.  I asked what's going on, and was told maintenance.  So I went to path window as I saw a couple people standing there.  Looked inside and Chimps were having a Christmas Party!  ... As Zoo Staff watched.

Wonderful for the Chimps!  Their fun and enrichment is the most important thing, but good grief on a few points.  If you watch the video this is a repeat of my gripe.  First, Why does the Zoo always do fun themed enrichment (Birthdays, Holidays, ...) and not alert the public?  I've said this before, and I have posts in draft from yeara ago, exclusively about this.  People love this kind of stuff!  Next, Why if it's during business hours, do they then close it off to public?  I find it completely selfish.  Last, Isn't really a question but a general WTH.  It was raining.  They are lucky people even come to the Zoo in the rain.  The least they could do is have spaces you can view Animals that are covered open.  AND if there's something like this happening, it is beyond rude to allow people access to the path window, so they can stand in the rain watching. If they wanted it to themselves,  which they obviously did, then block the window access too.  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I got to see this, and would have been pissed if the path window had been closed too, so I know this might be hard to follow, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to express, and that's basically, this shouldn't happen. So in saying this, I'm really just putting myself in the place where this doesn't happen and things are just done better.  Geez and the rain issue.  It's raining, let people inside.  There's fun stuff, share it with people.  So many things are so secretive and selfish.  Sometimes, I just don't get the things that happen there.

Also, and this has happened before, and I find it ridiculous.  The lying.  I'm not a liar, so I just don't get it.  Why say there is maintenance when there is not?  Why not just say, it's closed so Zoo Staff can take their photos.  Why?  Maybe because the later sounds as shitty as the action.  I'm not blaming Security, unless he made it up, but maybe he was told to say that.  Again, just so ridiculous.

Merry Christmas My Precious Chimpers! I don't mind getting wet to see your happy faces! 

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Friday, December 20, 2019

Could the Orangutans Finally Be Getting A Proper Home?!!

So, I guess I was premature on my end of year Orangutan Update.   

When I walked up to Chimps yesterday, our three longtimers, Cobby, Minnie and Maggie, along with new lady Jamie were sitting on the stairs that lead from the yard to the short trail.  The three were intently looking toward Triple Grotto.  The girls proceeded to climb higher and all three started hooting!  From their vantage point, they could see into Triple Grotto. I could hear people in there, so something is happening!
Miss Minnie came over 
to ponder with me!

Toggling between my camera and my cell, I uploded the three clips I captured on my cell.  View all three parts starting here:

With the event on Tueday of the Orangutans having access to the yard, and then yesterday, Thursday, non-Zoo Staff in Triple Grotto, something is a brewing!  

Some who know me, might be thinking, is that all she has to say?  Haha, of course not!  I did have a much longer post, but for some reason I felt like I should wait to post all my thoughts. 

So enjoy this new development, and let's all hope there is a lovely yard for the Orangutans and Chimps to rotate through soon!  ... As it should have been eight months ago.

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Thursday, December 19, 2019

Dear Santa, We've Been Good Please Bring Us A Home! - Orangutan Year-End Wrap-Up

With the Orangtans getting to go into the yard yesterday, I'm hoping to take a break from their situation, til after the holidays.  Hopefully there will be some news on something happening in Triple Grotto.  Maybe their Christmas wish will come true!

I started this post as a synopsis for anyone just catching this story recently.  So that will follow.  I did want to share something that happened yesterday morning, as I found it alittle surprising and outrageous in the grand scheme of things.  I've written before, that after I write a post, considering what's happened in the past, I always expect that I could be denied entry at any time, based on someone not liking something I've written, but I don't think I've ever noticed someone who has talked to me consistently in the past to just stop.  So, when I crossed paths with someone who I've talked to for many years, and they just ignored me, when I said, Good Morning, this was my immediate thought.

How am I the Villain in all of this?  Or in any other issue I post about?  The Orangutans are being kept in a caged tube for eight months, but I'm the Villain?  If this wasn't a serious situation, it might be comical. ... A friend said, "Truth-tellers are never appreciated." ... Ain't that the truth!
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The Orangutan Situation:

The Orangutans at the San Francisco Zoo have no exclusive enclosure.  Their living space consists of their bedrooms and one and a half, Skytrails.  The Skytrail is not a Habitat, it is meant as a passage between areas.  This is not appropriate housing for this species.   As of last week, the San Francisco Zoo Director allegedly had no immediate or current plans to provide them with a proper living space.  

In 2015,  Director Peterson wanted to kick out our three Senior Chimpanzees who had lived at the Zoo for almost fifty years.  Public outcry led by my crusade and a news story, forced Director Peterson to let them stay in the only home they have known.    According to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) guidelines, they would need a new space and additional Chimps to create a better size social group.  As it stood, the AZA would not send any more Chimps to live in their home at the time, Triple Grotto, built in the mid 1960s. 

The new Chimpanzee area would be called The Great Ape Passage.  It will initially consist of new Bedrooms, a Dayroom and a new Yard.  All new areas built out of a renovation of the Historic Pachyderm Building.  Access to the Pachyderm areas from Triple Grotto, would be by Skytrail.  A renovation to Triple Grotto in the future would allow for the addition of Orangutans and the ability for both species to rotate the three areas. 

The renovation to Triple Grotto phase never happened and the AZA still allowed Director Peterson her want of a pair of Orangutans, regardless of there being an appropriate place for them to live.                                
                     
October 2018 - First New Male Chimpanzee arrives
November 2018 - Chimpanzee Dayroom in Pachyderm Building opens
February 2019 - Chimps are Introduced
March 2019 - Chimps move out of Triple Grotto into new Bedrooms in Pachyderm Building
April (end) 2019 - Male Orangutan arrives
May (beginning) 2019 - Female Orangutan arrives
May (end) 2019 - New Chimpanzee Yard opens

The Chimpanzees got to access their new yard for for less than a month.  After that they were locked inside the dayroom with no outdoor access or fresh air for seven weeks.  I wrote a blog post about this and the next day they had access.  They have had access everyday since. 

The female Orangutan was given access to the yard for those seven weeks.  The male was not allowed access as he still had no recall ability.  Once the Chimps were given access to their yard again, I began counting.  Tomorrow would have be four months, since the female had access, but it had been the full eight months since the male arrived, that he had not had access to any outdoor area except the skytrails. (Written to reflect Orangutans having yard access yesterday.)

In September, three new Chimpanzees arrived, bringing the total group size to seven.  This week marks one month of full integration.  There are still random high energy outbursts which even more so, requires there to be enough space for everyone to have their own corner to go to.  This is important during this time as well as for general Chimpanzee management.  According to the AZA Care Manual, their recommended guideline for space for seven Chimps is 4000 sq ft.  The Dayroom and Yard are 3800.  Including the Bedroom space brings it in at the minimum recommendation         .  

The SFZoo's official word is that the two species will eventually rotate.  I've heard different things over the last year, so its been kinda unclear, whether that would be through both areas or just the yard.  In my opinion, and going by the AZA recommendations, rotation without a third space this is not a feasible  option.  Even if they were to rotate periodically or only for half day, that can not happen indefinitely, because of size constraints for seven Chimpanzees, not to mention the need for the Orangutans to have an environment where they can stretch and climb.  Both physical actions are noted in the AZA Orangutan Care Manual. 

Based on what the Zoo has put forth, and the fact that the Orangutans are living in the trails, the Zoo is selling an illusion. It is wrong that these poor Orangutans were brought here without there being a place for them to live.  

So, they went to the yard yesterday, but as I wrote in my previous post about that, it's wonderful, but not a solution.  Something needs to be done to create a third space and soon.  A few months ago I wrote a post of what could happen.  
In short, there needs to be a Triple Grotto renovation to create a second yard.  Over the course of this situation, I heard Director Peterson only wanted to do one grotto.  That does not seem like the best use for the space, or for the completed potential of the Great Ape Passage (GAP) project as a whole.  With three grottos, combining two (the North and Middle Grottos) would create a good sized area, that would and should compliment the style that's been created in the dayroom and yard.

At this stage of the situation, in my opinion, it seems like the best approach would be doing whatever gets the Orangutans into a yard that they can have daily access to as soon as possible.  After seeing how long it took for the new yard to be done, it seems any work done at Triple Grotto to make it look like it fit into the GAP project would take months.  Something quick and simple should be considered. 

That would leave the South Grotto, which is currently an off exhibit area.  After the building is painted, that Grotto could be netted over and the Orangutans given access.   It would create a temporary yard for them in a short period of time, which at this eight month mark is needed immediately.  It could be used to house another Primate species at a later time.  Whether they make the area accessible to the public or not, at least the Orangutans would have a yard and that is what is most important.  They could still go to the trails and be visible to visitors.  

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Wednesday, December 18, 2019

OMG! There Was Christmas Joy for Ollie and Amoi! - Orangutan Update!

I tried to post this last night, to be timely with this exciting news, but again I didn't get that far.  

Yesterday, the Universe positioned me in the right place at the right time and I was blessed to witness a wonderful milestone in what is, the Orangutan Situation. 

After visiting Chimps in the dayroom, I was heading to Gorillas and saw Oillie and Amoi sitting side by side.  I dashed over to capture the moment and while I had my camera aimed at them, I heard something. Ollie looked startled, and Amoi moved forward, THEN I noticed the door to the yard opening!  OMG!  Yes, the Orangutans were going in the yard!  

Amoi went right in, but Ollie was a bit freaked out I think.  If you've been following along, Amoi had access to the yard for seven weeks at the start of Summer, Ollie has never had access.  So for him, it was like, WTH is going on?  You mean I get to go to that place I've watch Chimps for the last eight months?!  Yes Ollie you do!

It was amazing and such a joy to see them out of the caged tube!  Especially Ollie who could finally, stretch and climb!  He climbed to the very top, and stood on the Pachyderm Building, where he could see the Ocean!  So happy for him!

Here's some cell pix from my camera screen.





While I did concentrate on documenting all Ollie's firsts, as I did the first time Amoi went into the yard, seeing them together in there was a beautiful thing.  He followed her all around and I got some sweet moments of them together, especially on video!  she showed him how to eat the Rose bushes and Banana tree leaves!

They had a great time and were so happy!  You could literally see smiles on both their faces!  Look on several of Ollie's and this one of Amoi.  Smiles!

I Love these two, I'm so happy for them!  I'm happy for me too, I needed a break from crying about their situation.

It might take awhile for me to review and piece together all clips, but I also got great cell videos,  including the moment Ollie braved it and went through the door!  View all five on my YouTube channel.  
I'm so lucky to have seen this, and hope they get access at least a few times a week, even if it's just half the day.  While this is great and much needed, we must remember, this is not a solution to the serious situation, it's a bandaid.  There still needs to be a third space created at Triple Grotto to complete the Great Ape Passage.  It is the only way two species can feasibly exist at optimum well-being.  

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Sunday, December 15, 2019

Shame at SF Zoo - No Christmas Joy For Ollie and Amoi

The San Francisco Zoo
promotes
Joy at SF Zoo
Screencap from sfzoo.org

Does this look like Joy?
HELP US!

Ollie and Amoi have been at SFZoo for eight months.  None of that time has been magical.

When Ollie was a babie, would anyone who saw him, cared for him, loved him, thought he'd one day be living in a caged tube?

Screencap from YouTube

In her old home Amoi enjoyed hanging out with her Brothers.  She was moved to San Francisco to live in a caged tube.

Screencap from YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777N4XFoFpc

Show Some Compassion Director Peterson.  
I'm not trying to be rude,
but its a valid question,
What is wrong with you?  

Give the Orangutans a proper home!  
Get them out of that caged tube!

The Orangutans being denied an appropriate living space is proof of Mismanagement and is a serious Animal Welfare issue.

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Saturday, December 14, 2019

Orangutan Watches Chimp Birthday - Extreme Sadness - My Heart Breaks

As I have been saying last many posts, I'm trying to get through all my posts in draft.  I'm almost there, but damn if things don't happen to set me back.  

Tuesday was Chimpanzee Nick's Birthday.  When I went to Chimps to see if there would be any special treats, Orangutan Ollie was in the trail, watching the Keeper set-up for Nick's party.  
Ollie watching.
Heartbreaking.

I stood there most of the time, which was about a half hour, just watching Ollie.  I took many video clips on my camera that I still haven't uploaded.  Thankfully I took a couple on my cell phone that I posted that day, because I don't think I'll be able to watch the others.  Reliving this sadness is just too much.

Ollie watching part one
Watching Ollie was heartbreaking.  It has been for months and the level of upset increases each week I see the Orangutans.  When I left the Zoo, I felt so down.  I loved watching the Chimps have so much fun with their party festivities, but when those moments were over, I saw Ollie and Amoi.  I spend most of my time with the Chimps, so there is no way to avoid the Orangutans.  Under normal circumstances I wouldn't want to, but in this cruel environment, if they weren't next to the Chimps, I might avoid them except to get some quick footage to document their situation.  

The next day, I decided not to go to the Zoo, because I just couldn't see them in that caged tube again so soon.  It's never easy, but I was still feeling emotional from the day before.  I couldn't get Ollies eyes out of my mind.  I went on errands, and broke down crying in my car.  I just can't shake the sadness. I had to try to distance myself from emotions just to finally write this.  I don't understand how this is happening to these Beings?

I wish more people who went to the Zoo understood what is going on.  I think part of the reason they don't, is because who would ever think that an Animal would not have a home?  Again I ask, ... How is this happening?  

I've had many conversations about the situation with the Orangutans, with people both inside and outside the Zoo.  I respect other's thoughts, but they also prompt questions.  Several have said in different ways, that I shouldn't let it affect me so much.  My soul, doesn't know what to do with those words.  While that might work for some, I literally can not turn off my empathy factor.  I just don't understand how anyone can see what's going on and not feel deep sadness.  

From another side of it, it has also been offered, that there might be things I don't know about the situation. This was in response to my wondering why the AZA/SSP sent them here, without there being a home for them.  Maybe the AZA/SSP didn't know there was no place for them?  Maybe Director Peterson sold them the illusion that they would rotate through the Chimps Dayroom and Yard?  Maybe they were told that a third yard in Triple Grotto was happening?   Who knows what transpired that resulted in the Orangutans being sent here.  The fact is, they are here and have been for eight months.  There is NO excuse for these Beings to have no proper home.  I don't know where there blame lays.  In my opinion, it is the AZA/SSP responsibility to confirm a proper home is in place or will be by the end of quarantine, for any Animal they transfer anywhere.  I don't think that is unreasonable, since their position is supposed to be rooted in Animal Welfare.

Some still believe in the rotation illusion.  As I've noted in other posts, with seven Chimpanzees, there is not enough space for this to work on a full-time basis.

It's also been said, Maybe something is in the works?  I've heard this as well, ... for months.  I don't buy it.  Again, it has been eight months.   Even if the Zoo started today, unless it was for a temporary yard, it would be months before something proper would be finished.  The San Francisco Zoo Director is ruining these Animals with each passing day that they languish in that caged tube.

San Francisco Zoo Director Tanya Peterson has alot to answer for in regard to the acquisition and housing of the Orangutans.  Unfortunately, she never will. 

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Sunday, December 8, 2019

No Home For The Orangutans - Eight Months Now! Why Isn't There More OUTRAGE!?

The San Francisco Zoo's Mission Statement
Screencap from sfzoo.org


This coming week will mark Eight Months since the Male Orangutan Ollie arrived at SFZoo.  The female came two weeks later.  There has been no attempt to provide them with a home.  Not just an appropriate home, but a home.  Their exclusive living space is their bedrooms and the skytrails.  Caged Tubes are NOT a Habitat!

Why aren't more people outraged?

As I've noted before.  I will continue to document this cruel situation in weekly blog posts and videos. ... These are from last week.




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More SFZoo Social Media Irritations As Orangutans Languish In a Caged Tube

Again, just like the Thanksgiving Newsletter that I found offensive, my issue with these things is not meant to be bitchy, but come on, the situation with the Orangutans is serious and the Zoo doesn't even seem to care.  They aren't even trying to provide a proper home for them.  It's Sick!

This past Tuesday was the internet wide charitable effort called Giving Tuesday.  The Zoo sent out an edition of their email Newsletter. ... 
Screencap of email lead in

                                           
Screencap of Newsletter

I saw this during the day while I was out, and by the time I got home in the evening, a friend who is also a Member had messaged me with her displeasure about the continued slight to the needs of the Orangutans.

And then, a second appeal the same day (and one previous)!
                                                        Screencap from sfzoo Twitter

It is curious that they are asking for donations for this project, as it has already begun construction.  Was it started before securing full funding?   What if they don't raise what's needed, does the area just sit there torn up and closed off indefinitely?

The Snow Leopard Expansion is one of the projects that is like most, a head-scratcher as far as where it came in on the list of priorities.  In my opinion, knowing that space would have to one day possibly house multiple full size Cats (Mama and offspring), if expanding it was on the agenda, it should have been done before receiving a new breeding pair.   I had been told that Snow Leopards live with their Mama for 2-3 years.  Curiously, our Mama decided she was "done" shortly after the Cubs first Birthday.  I wonder if that has anything to do with the limited amount space. Actually I don't wonder, my instinct is probably right on.  So Mama Anna, Papa Raj and Senior Lady Niya, are all living in separate small aviary pods at the off exhibit Feline Conservation Center. 

Hopefully they finish the expansion and it will allow for all five Snow Leopards to take advantage of more space.  After providing Niya with companionship at FCC, I seriously hope they don't leave her alone.  Plus, so many people miss visiting her.

Director Peterson allegedly claims there is no funds for a renovation in Triple Grotto, which would create a third space in the Great Ape Passage, and allow for the Orangutans to have a proper home.  Yet, there has been no efforts to raise funds for the project.   She has wanted Orangutans for at least five years, and they have been here for eight months.  So, my irritation is valid, as is asking,  At what point will she attempt to raise funds for them?

And then there's this one!  I'm not trying to be Bah Humbug, but this is how I think when I see stuff like this.  I have trouble getting on board with certain things, when other things just aren't right.

Considering the current Orangutan situation,  Ironically this seems to be their tagline for the Holiday Season.  Nice!
Screencap from sfzoo.org

I certainly don't feel Joy when I see the faces of the Orangutans staring out from their caged tube, watching the Chimpanzees moving about freely in a large space.  Pretty sure they aren't feeling Joy either.

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Sunday, December 1, 2019

The Future - Orangutan Week Fifteen and Beyond

As I noted in the Thanksgiving post, I had two posts in draft to post before the holiday.  This is the second one.  It started by making the point that while the previous week ending was week Fourteen, it also marked the Three Month point.  

I think that I should make something very clear at this time, as I haven't spelled it out yet in past posts.  I have been using the point when the female, Amoi stopped having access to the Yard.  She had access for seven weeks, in which the Chimps were locked in to accommodate that access.  So, the Three Month point directly applies to her.  Since the male, Ollie had recall issues, he did not have access to the yard.  So, he has NEVER had access to an appropriate enclosure since he arrived, in mid April.

The Orangutans have been here over Seven Months.  At no point has there been an attempt on the part of Director Peterson to provide them with an appropriate living environment.
Screencap from video
Week Fourteen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRKWmGPp8M

We all should be wondering, and questioning, What exactly is the hold up of, at the very least, giving them a temporary yard?  Something that could probably be done in less than two weeks.  

Seriously, I have to wonder, is Director Peterson holding out on them in spite, so it doesn't look like she is bowing to my complaints?  I would hate to think that, but Director Peterson brought them here knowing there was no place to properly house them, so their Welfare has apparently never been a consideration. 

Additionally, now that the Chimpanzees are fully integrated, we must also wonder, Will the Zoo initiate their plan of illusion, rather delusion, of rotating the two species between two areas and having that be an appropriate solution?  It is not, and I laid that out in this post:
https://iamnotananteater.blogspot.com/2019/11/aza-habitat-guidelines-for-great-apes.html

As we head into Week Fifteen, (as of this posting will be Sixteen), lets just review some obvious and pertinent questions for those in authoritative positions in our SFZoo World .

San Francisco Zoo Director Tanya Peterson - 

* Why did you seek and allow the acquisition of the Orangutans, when you knew there was no appropriate housing for them? 

San Francisco Zoological Society Board/Members -

* Why did you allow Director Peterson to move forward with acquiring Orangutans, when there was no appropriate housing for them?

San Francisco Recreation and Park - Joint Zoo Meeting Rep's Allan Low and Eric McDonnell

* Why did you approve the request from SFZoo to acquire Orangutans, when there was no appropriate housing for them?

Association of Zoos and Aquariums -

* Why did you allow the transfer of Orangutans to the San Francisco Zoo,  when there was no appropriate housing for them?

Orangutan Species Survival -

* Why did you allow the transfer of Orangutans to the San Francisco Zoo,  when there was no appropriate housing for them?

All valid questions, all people responsible. 

San Francisco Zoo Director Tanya Peterson is supposed to have the welfare of every Zoo Resident in foremost priority.  Assuring each Animal has proper housing, healthcare, diet and whatever else contributes to their overall well-being.  

The San Francisco Zoological Society is allegedly supposed to be the Management for the Zoo.  Yet not one person within the Society or on the Board, seems to take an active role in management.  As I understand it, they are basically who the Director answers to.  There seems to be no management checks and balances at the Zoo.  I've been to the Joint Zoo Meetings, every person on the panel, including Society Board Members, blindly agrees with whatever they are presented with.  It appears the Society can't be bothered with the Zoo and defers to Director Peterson.

The San Francisco Recreation and Park is the City of San Francisco's managing department for the Zoo.  They are allegedly supposed to be above the Zoological Society, and therefore they are who the Society and the Director answer to.  Yet not one person within the Rec and Park, takes an active role in managing or questioning anything in regards to the Zoo.  There seems to be no management checks and balances at the Zoo.  I've been to the Joint Zoo Meetings, every person on the panel, including Rec and Park Members, blindly agrees with whatever they are presented with.  It appears the City can't be bothered with the Zoo and defers to Director Peterson. 

The Association of Zoos and Aquariums, is the governing organization of all Zoos under their Accreditation.  It is allegedly supposed to be their responsibility to make sure things are within their guidelines.  There are things at the San Francisco Zoo that are obviously not within guidelines.

The Orangutan Species Survival Plan, part of the AZA, is allegedly supposed to be managing the captive population.  It does not seem like good management to send Animals to Zoos with no place to appropriately house them.  Yet, here we are.

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