Saturday, August 24, 2019

Blog Comments to Post "Chimps Haven't Been Outside in Almost Two Months"

This post is to document comments made to my blog post
https://iamnotananteater.blogspot.com/2019/08/chimps-havent-been-outside-in-almost.html

It's important to document the Voices of others, as it is often just my own ranting about Zoo Fails.

That post got the most individual comments of any post in recent time and because of the topic I wanted to post those comments in a stand alone post.  

Thank You to those who took the time to be a Voice for Minnie, Maggie, Cobby and Qadeer!  I appreciate your efforts.  To those who had trouble posting to the blog, thank you for reaching out and giving me your comments to post.  You can check the original post for my comment replies.

Apparently, commenting to the blog can be problematic sometimes. If you ever have trouble commenting, you can always send your words to me to post via the blog's About Me contact, or by Direct Message on Twitter ( leo811 ).  Note your words and user name, or if as Anonymous.  Thank you.







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Tuesday, August 20, 2019

Well, Well, The Chimps Got To Go Outside Today! (Mon 8.19.19)

Great News!  The Chimps had access to the yard today!  

When I got to the Dayroom shortly after opening, the Chimps weren't out yet. I walked around and planned to come back to watch them have their morning forage.  I lost track of time and realized I probably missed their "active" time, which in recent weeks seemed to be limited to their foraging time.

When I got back, luckily, they were still moving about.  Maggie went over to the gate that leads to the yard.  It was open and she was looking out.  I took a video, and you can hear me saying, ... "you can only look outside,...",  then she walked over to the window and brought her ice treat.  Check it out, the ice treat eating footage is really cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkSi5babNg8

All of a sudden, the gate opened!  I was like OMG! They're going out!  I ran out and around to the yard and got the first moments of them entering.  They were so happy!  I cried tears of joy seeing them able to go outside.  It had been too long!  So long, that their excitement and actions, made it seem like this was their first time out in the yard.  Shameful that they were kept in so long.  Almost two months.  So Cruel.  It is Unconscionable that a situation, that dictated them having no outside access for months, even happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefIVBGyHac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIXyD7F8qmQ

I stayed there for over two hours, went to the Farm and came back.  They were outside the whole time.  Sometimes going in to get food, but coming right back out.  They stayed active the whole time.  Sitting for short periods of time to groom.  Their spirits were energized.  Not like how I've seen them the past three weeks.  ...   As soon as they came out, Maggie was climbing the mesh.  All the way to the top and around the perimeter.  She made several trips.  Cobby went straight up the ladder to get a better look at Ollie (Orangutan) who was in the long trail.  They all did. This was even Enrichment for Ollie, who peeked out at the Chimps continuously.  Minnie enjoyed the new hammock.  I saw Qadeer jumping up and down, smiling more than a few times.  He more than ever needed this.  He arrived last Oct. (2018).  Ten months ago and has been outside not much more than a couple dozen times, and I'm probably being generous with that estimate.  They were all over the yard, often coming up to the mesh to see people.  They had a great time!  This should be their everyday.  Its a crime that it hasn't been.

Minnie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27cTUxryRk

Qadeer and Cobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxSkdP3QNNc

Maggie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6h-raRaRk

Their being outside is ESSENTIAL to their Wellness.  I hope this NEED will not be denied again.

I have tons more footage, so the links I'm posting here are taken on my cell phone.  I will upload the rest on the weekend.  .. As well, I have some other posts related to this planned. Check back or subscribe to the blog or my Twitter (leo811) for alerts.

Related post
http://iamnotananteater.blogspot.com/2019/08/chimps-havent-been-outside-in-almost.html


Sunday, August 18, 2019

Chimps Haven't Been Outside in Almost Two Months!

I'm not even sure how to begin this.  A month ago, I had a plan for this blog.  Finish up al my posts in draft, both the couple I have published holding spaces for flow purposes, and the handful of others I've had in draft, one since February 2018.  Contrary to what some think, I actually have come to hate blogging.  Its too emotionally draining.  I ignore posting in timely manner, because of the upset, but then that back-up becomes overwhelming.  ...  Moving forward, out of order, as I can no longer ignore posting about what is going on with our Chimpanzees.

Our Chimps have not gone outside in almost two months! 

By my calculations, June 24th, the day the Great Ape Passage pathway was first opened to the public, was the the last time the Chimps were outside, and in the new yard.  

It is now seven weeks since, and while I know there are extenuating circumstances, this is not acceptable! 

At this point, most of you are asking why?  Before getting into the factual details, as to why, I want to make something very clear.  

This situation with our Chimpanzees and Orangutans, is a direct result of decisions made by Director Tanya Peterson.  She has the final word on what happens at the Zoo.  It all falls on her, because if there was any indication (and there was) that this would happen, she had the opportunity to fix it or stop it. 

That all said, I want to also be very clear, that I do not hold the Primate Staff responsible for the situation, as I believe, they are doing the best they can, with what they've been given.  The simple facts of the situation are,  we have two spaces and we have two species.   The Orangutans should have never come here until Triple Grotto was ready for them.  That is the bottom line. 

Director Peterson and the Zoological Society/Donors have been pushing to acquire Orangutans for years.  Their wants were the main catalyst for Peterson trying to kick out the Chimps (2015) and replace them with Orangutans.  So no surprise they are here, the surprise and sadness is the timing.  There was and is no proper habitat to exclusively house them in.  ... See previous posts by searching "Orangutans"

Director Peterson knew in 2014, as she put her plan to kick out the Chimps in motion, that she wanted to bring in Orangutans.  
Once it was confirmed, the Chimps would be staying, three things needed to happen.  
*A new living space for the Chimps had to be built. 
*Additional Chimps needed to be brought in.
*Triple Grotto needed to be renovated
Two of those things have been achieved.  The last is still a mystery to everyone.

Since 2015, not one of the Zoo's annual fundraisers, ZooFest has focused on raising funds for the Chimps new space, or subsequently, the renovation of Triple Grotto for the acquisition of Orangutans in the future.  As well, it appears that no Donors have come forward to contribute to the Triple Grotto cause, as they hadn't wanted to for the Chimps for the twenty years prior. 

As soon as the Chimps staying was confirmed, renovation plans for Triple Grotto should have been drawn up, and after sorting funding for the Chimp Expansion, funding for Triple Grotto should have started.  ... The Zoo was seeking Orangutan individuals as early as Fall 2018.  As soon as the Chimps moved out of Triple Grotto in March 2019, renovations of Triple Grotto should have started.  Again, Orangutans should never have been brought here until Triple Grotto was ready.

So let's reiterate, we have two spaces and two species.  One space is indoors. Do the math. 

Now, from the beginning, the Expansion, was supposed to be new bedrooms, a dayroom and a yard, for the Chimps.  No one expected Orangutans to be brought in before Triple Grotto was renovated.  When they were, word was the two species would be rotated.   The Great Ape Passage sign, shows both species, so rotating them sounded like a fine idea when Triple Grotto was part of the idea.  Now that it isn't, we have a huge problem. 

The huge problem, is that not having two outdoor yards, leaves one species inside.  That species has so far been the Chimps.  This is unacceptable.  The Chimps were supposed to be the priority.  They waited decades for this and are now apparently being slighted again.  Its not right.  They are old, they may not have ten, fifteen more years to wait for the Zoo to get its act together.  

Again, I think the Primate Staff is doing the best they can, but something needs to give soon.  The Chimps can't be cooped up in the Dayroom forever, yet what can be done?  There is no other place to put the Orangutans.  The situation has been and is as follows.  The Chimps got access to the new yard May 30, for several days following that, and a few more sprinkled through til their last time in there June 24.  June 25th and forward to date, the female Orangutan has had access.  Her access was limited shortly after her first outing, as the male basically barricaded himself against the trail door leading to the yard, since he doesn't have access the door was closed. That left the new yard with neither Chimps or Orangutans using it for at least two weeks.  New yard, warm weather, and it sat empty.  Note the male Orangutan doesn't have access to the yard because of recall issues.  If he goes out and refuses to come in, that's a problem.  Once the male Orangutan was moved to the long trail, the female could have access.  Since then, I have not seen her spend any extended time in the yard, just in and out.  I estimate her time in yard during an eight hour day is less than an hour.  So with both trails and yard being used for Orangs, the Chimps are shit out of luck for fresh air and sunshine. ... This needs to change NOW! 


The Chimps are obviously not going to get to go to the yard anytime soon.  It also seems like there will be no rotating, so they at least need access to the long trail.  This in no way is meant to be mean to the Orangutans.  I love them, and are very much enjoying them, but them being a priority at the detriment to the Chimps is not acceptable.  ... They have all seen eachother through the windows, there is no drama, so the Chimps need access to the trail.  The Orangs can have access to the trail that leads to the yard.  They can figure out if they are going to let them both have access to the yard or keep them both with only access to the trail and bedrooms.  But again THE CHIMPS NEED TO GO OUTSIDE!  ... The only sad thing about this is the Chimps will see the Orangs using the yard that they can't.  Such a messed up situation, that could have been avoided.

My video about the situation  https://youtu.be/n65rxmqGHD8

I will note here as I have previously.  If Triple Grotto was ready when Orangs got here, the male Orangutan would possibly not have the stubborn recall issues he is exhibiting.  He was taken from his Family for the first time, brought to a new place, with new people, he was most likely scared.  Add in the loud major construction going on right outside, because the new yard wasn't finished either, no wonder he isn't being cooperative.  Bringing him here prematurely made the situation worse.

Let's talk about the detriment to the Chimps that I mentioned. For the past three weeks I have been noticing a change in the Chimps behavior.  The have increasingly pulled back their activity, culminating in them just laying around all day.   These new areas, were supposed to be enriching and exciting for them.  If you look at my early videos, it was.  They were happy, they were exhibiting behaviors and interactions that showed that.  They were up and active, and now they look like their spirits have been broken.  They looked happier, were outside in the sun and had more room (and their twigging mound) in Triple Grotto.  This is not how it was supposed to be for them!

Last week on my last day out of the house, I got home and started my evening routine, the whole time, thinking about my visits that week with the Chimps. By the time I was ready to sit down, I was so upset that I was in tears.  The tears continued this past week as nothing had changed.  The only ambition to be active that I saw in them was Wednesday, when there was activity outside in preparation for the arrival of new Chimps.  The only good thing about the timing of them coming, is that the Chips will have reason to be up and about.  There is no way they will be just laying around with the excitement of new Friends in the house.So, yeah, for those who don't know, we were scheduled to receive three new Chimps by the end of the week. 

So, if you're keeping track, that would be 7 Chimps, and two Orangutans, to manage in two areas.  

The situation just keeps getting worse.  Will 7 Chimps be cooped up in the Dayroom?  How will introductions be done with only six bedrooms and the dayroom?   If we were going to have Orangutans by this time, we needed Triple Grotto done.  ... Now regarding that.  I have heard that the plan remains a mystery because there is no funding! What?!  Its obvious that we need Triple Grotto for the Orangutans, yet no funding for it?  Well, Director Peterson needs to start crying to the Donors, because this is a necessity.  I also heard because of lack of funds, that maybe only one Grotto will be done.  Uh, no, that is not an acceptable sized space for two adult Orangutans and future offspring.  Both the North and Middle Grotto need renovation.  Geez, anyone with compassion can see that.

I also want to note that I understand that there are many factors that both the incoming and outgoing Zoos need to work with to make transfers happen.  I understand that certain Animals need to be moved from their current homes to new homes, even at times not ideal.  But I have to wonder, at what expense?  If there is no proper housing?  No proper area for proper management?  

I've also been thinking about this rotating situation.  Why hasn't it been done?  I early on wondered about whether it would be a sanitation issue.  I then just assumed, since it was mentioned that it wouldn't be, because they were both Apes, and I knew there had been mixed species Ape and Monkey enclosures at other Zoos.  ... This week thinking about it more, I did some research, and come to find out, yes it is an issue.  Before being able to rotate these two species, the areas would need to be sanitized before and after, use by each species.  How this was ever a considered option is beyond me.  I can not see there being enough staff or time for this to happen on a regular basis.  

That said, its seeming like the Chimps would then be kept inside most of their life.  This is wrong, and again, it comes directly back to Director Peterson, not making sure Triple Grotto was renovated before acquiring Orangutans.  

The way these poor Animals are and will be living, is a result directly dictated by how Director Peterson has managed the priority of projects at the Zoo.  

The damage has been done.  The Chimps need to go outside NOW.  Triple Grotto renovation needs to happen NOW.  Director Peterson, what is your plan?

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My Membership Status Update - Renewed! - 9.3.19

I now have a Membership in my name.  About time.  

Not sure what changed (from the Zoo's position), since nothing has changed from mine.  I have never done anything wrong or disruptive, and never would. 

When I got to the Membership office, the Membership Manager had just sent an email, notifying them to renew my Membership.  Thank you for making it easy. 

I made a video update, posted to my YouTube channel. 

Someone I know responded to my Membership Status Update Video and asked if I could put it in the blog comments.  I added it to the comments below and I'm including it here as well. 

Something I didn't notate on the video that I want to document here.  When I once asked why someone throwing something at an Animal, wasn't thrown out, I was told, "They get three warnings".  It is my feeling that if something so bad as assaulting an Animal in the Zoo's care, doesn't get you thrown out, without warning, then Memberships should not be taken away or denied without warning.  Moving forward, if the Zoo decides to pull something with my Membership again, they need to give me a warning.  This warning must be in writing with a reason, as I have never gotten one before.  I have been advised that I should have this documentation for legal purposes. 

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My Membership Status - What Will 2019 Hold For Me?

Well this is another post I had an earlier deadline for and never got to.  Now its the day before I need to renew our Membership and I want these thoughts documented.  ...  FYI it's tucked into one of these previous "Hold" spots, as I have all my draft posts in a certain flow order.  Two others I wanted to lead up to this one, but didn't get that far.  Hopefully this week, but you regular readers know me.  That could very well not happen.  Fingers crossed though!

For those who don't know why this is a thing, Director Tanya Peterson revoked my Membership (and my friend Lee's) in 2011.  Fees returned.  No reason given to me.  A slanderous accusation of a reason given to Lee.  I wrote letters to Society Board, and City Officials.  Memberships returned Complimentary after eleven months.  After six years in 2017, I was told they were "Exercising their right to refuse me a Membership".  No reason given.  The account was deactivated and noted that myself and my two friends were deceased!  After being very vocal about that, that notation was immediately scrubbed and other notations about me not being able to have a Membership added.  Notations were still there in 2018.  

I decided this year I would get a Membership in my name, because frankly its BS that I was denied in the first place.  There is absolutely no reason I can not hold a Membership in MY NAME!   I have never done anything wrong there.  I have never been approached by Management or Security about any disruptive actions or misbehavior.  EVER!  

The only issue the Zoo (and by this I mean Director Tanya Peterson) can take with me is in regard to my blog.  That said, it is not against any rules, and certainly not against the law, for me to document my personal experiences, thoughts, and opinions.  As I state in my Blogger's Statement, "... Censorship and Retaliation Actions in an attempt at Suppression are frowned upon by Healthy Societies."  

I believe an attempt at Censorship is the root of the Membership issue.  I was in a conversation with an upper management staffer, shortly after the 2017 issue, which came up in conversation.  I have known this person for years, yet they didn't it was me, and responded, "Are you the blogger?" I answered that I was and said, "That doesn't matter though".  Their response was, "But that goes against our Mission".  I said, "But your Mission is not my Mission".   Getting no where, the conversation ended, no hard feelings.  I think that pretty much confirms that my suspicion as to the reason is accurate.

Now, why I've never been given a reason, I don't know.  Not for lack of not trying to get one.  I have to assume, because there is no legitimate or legal reason.  And, obviously Director Peterson feels she has no obligation to provide me with one. 

So, over the past month, in preparation for this years renewal, I have checked the Membership status under my name, three times.  First at the end of July and again on August 14th.  There was nothing notated on my account.  I knew I'd probably procrastinate on this post so I made a video about this situation and posted that to YouTube the same day.

View Video here:
I checked again this past Saturday August 31.  There was nothing notated. ... It's actually ok that I never got to posting sooner, as when I checked on Saturday, the newest Membership Manager was there, and said, "You won't have any problem (getting a Membership in my name)".  So, we will see!  I hope that's true and I hope it sticks and I am not turned away on the non-valid whim of Director Peterson. 

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